Sept. 28, 2026

In the Lion’s Den: Brandon Wilder on the Ethics of Animal Research

In the Lion’s Den: Brandon Wilder on the Ethics of Animal Research

John, Lori and Chelsey are joined by Brandon Wilder, to discuss animal research and the lives of the animals involved.

We ask Brandon the difficult questions: When is animal research justified? Who decides whether an experiment is necessary? And how do we account for an animal’s well-being during research and long after it ends? Brandon shares what drives his work, where he believes research practices need to improve, and why he hopes emerging methods could help reduce the use of animals.

We also talk about the realities of caring for animals after research, the bond Brandon shares with his rescued dog Toki, and what becomes possible when scientists and animal advocates are willing to listen to one another. Join us for a conversation grounded in compassion for both animals and people.

Connect with Brandon on LinkedIn.

The hosts of the show are:

John Ramer is the Executive Director of Kindness Ranch

Lori Cohen is the Founder and Executive Director of The Beagle Alliance

Chelsey Marino is the founder of Keeper and Kin. The Leading Experts in Former Research Beagle Rehabilitation

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