It's Show and Tell Time!

Sarah Burke (Voiceover)  0:06  
Matt, welcome to the podcast. Super Friends, five podcast producers from across North America get together to discuss podcasting.

Catherine O'Brien  0:17  
Here we are in August, and some podcasters are taking the summer off, but not the podcast, Super Friends. We're looking at closing out the year strong, and we're starting here on the show and tell episode of the podcast, super friends. My name is Catherine O'Brien. I'm checking in from the very warm, the very humid Baton Rouge Louisiana, and we're just gonna go right around the circle and introduce the other podcast, Super Friends, starting as my neighbor in Texas, Johnny podcasts, Hi,

Johnny Podcasts  0:45  
I am Johnny podcasts, like Catherine said, from Texas.

Matt Cundill  0:49  
Matt cundall, the sound off media company, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, for now,

David Yas  0:55  
maybe as the Boston Podcast Network, pod 617, dot com and pod, we trust

Jon Gay  1:02  
John Gay for the moment, jag in Detroit podcast soon to be rebranded as jag podcast productions in the coming weeks,

Catherine O'Brien  1:09  
and I want to give Jag, I want to give you a gold star right off the bat. Thank you for the applause there, David, yes, I want to give jag a gold star right off the bat, because I have noticed you are diligently every time I see you online, you're just dropping that you are rebranding soon.

Jon Gay  1:26  
Thank you. I appreciate that keeping it. The funny thing is, I wrote it on a on a notepad that has jag podcast production is the new name at the top, and everybody said, I can't wait to see the new rebrand, except for one marketing person in my network who realized the rebrand is literally right at the top of this notepad.

Catherine O'Brien  1:49  
They were, they were keenly they were like looking for spoilers. And they were, they were satisfied. They found the easter egg that you had been

Jon Gay  1:56  
planning. So Tiffany from twiz creative, if you are watching or listening, props to you for getting the gold star and be the only one who noticed that I had the new logo in the post.

Catherine O'Brien  2:04  
Good job, Tiffany. Well, the the spirit behind today's episode of the podcast, Super Friends is that we are here in the half the half halfway mark of the year. We're starting to close in on second New Year, which we all know as is September, right on through the end of the year. This is a great time for podcasters to be looking at what is going well, what is working, what have they tried in the new year? And we're going to do a little quick assessment here. I know just in in our fabulous podcast Super Friends vein, we are there's a lot to be reporting on with using AI tools. Some of our favorites are going to be coming off. Two of our podcast Super Friends have rekindled some outreach in the podcast sphere that I love to hear a little bit more about. So we're going to do a little bit of a potpourri of all the things that are going so well. And in that spirit, since Jag, we were talking about your rebrand and things that you're doing, you're using your summer very well. We got to see a video from you, jag. Can you tell us what you've been dropping out there for everybody to look

Jon Gay  3:07  
at? I put this out yesterday afternoon, about 24 hours ago, of the best mics to use for a podcast. And I broke down five microphones, our group favorite, the Blue Yeti, and I threw that behind me in the video with a little yeet sound effect, and then, and then we looked at the Samsung Q to you and Audio Technica 20 100x by the way, if you haven't seen the video, it's on my socials at jag in Detroit. But the crux of it is the problem with the ATR 20 100x it's in short supply. Problem with the Samsung Q to you, it's only USB A, but if you have a USB C connection, your computer just simply get an adapter for it or a dongle, as they say. And then we looked at the shore sm 7b and the Shure MV seven, which I believe Johnny is on as we speak right now,

Johnny Podcasts  3:56  
yes, but it's the XLR only model. I don't know how I ended up with that one versus most of them come with the USB C and XLR. Yeah,

Jon Gay  4:03  
the MV seven plus is the new fangled one where they put, they put a little bit more guts, and they put some pre amps into it, right preamps, and they got rid of, I think they had improved their de plosive. And it is that worth making a video on Jack? No, because I don't want to drop 300 bucks on the new microphone

Johnny Podcasts  4:18  
for YouTube video fair. Believe that for pop. If I

Jon Gay  4:21  
was starting, if I was starting out, I maybe I would well,

Catherine O'Brien  4:24  
and who knows, maybe you could land them as a sponsor there. That would, that would be the, that would be the real

Johnny Podcasts  4:31  
we're still working on, like a podcaster, Catherine, we're still working on the script for this show. Matt,

Matt Cundill  4:38  
that's true. I'm Jack. I wanted to point out that the ATR 20 100x I think, has been discontinued. I saw a post from Elsie Escobar, who was, I think, the only one to attend its funeral?

Jon Gay  4:49  
Oh, thank you for mentioning that I chat. GPT did not know that, which we'll come back to in a moment. But thank you, Elsie,

Matt Cundill  4:54  
yeah, I would probably just you know in your show notes, just mentioned that you can get them second. Hand, yeah, right, because

Johnny Podcasts  5:03  
there's a lot of podcasters that have quit that probably have that mic that's sitting in a box somewhere

Catherine O'Brien  5:11  
reliable. Totally reliable. Yeah, secondhand market is is rich. Matt, I know you had some new mic things that you were excited about,

Matt Cundill  5:19  
yeah? So the last couple of times we've done this show, I've noticed that this new space that I'm in is got a lot of echo. And I was using, well, a condenser mic, which is what jag says not to do if you're in a, not a very well treated space. And I learned that, and I swapped it out for an SMB seven dB. That's the new one, yeah, which is the it's, you know, same as the SMB seven, only it's, it's, I don't need to get a cloud lifter for it, so it's a little more expensive, but again, I'm saving the cost of a cloud lifter. And I found, most of times I put in just a regular SMB seven, I found I just didn't get the horsepower I needed out of it. I would have had to crank the gain. It got a little it got a little bit noisy, put a cloud lifter on. It would get better. But I figured, like, Why have two parts? But I can just do one. So I'm very happy with this microphone so

Jon Gay  6:11  
far. There you go. The SM seven beach runs about 400 the SM 7b dB, the new bell and whistle edition, about 500 us.

Catherine O'Brien  6:21  
Wow. But then no cloud lifter either. That's nice.

Johnny Podcasts  6:25  
Yeah, call you get a cloud lifter for like 100 so you're kind of even in and out. The push there and the extra XLR cable. It's a lot more boxes and wires folks,

Catherine O'Brien  6:34  
and things to get, things to go wrong, things to wear out and die. If

Jon Gay  6:38  
I could dovetail off that, I'll jump into one of mine. So one of my show and tell items is the road caster, two duo, which forgive me for moving my webcam around, but it is right here next to me on my desk. One of the one of the bells and whistles. Wishful over. This is over the original rodecaster Is there are more mic presets, including it's really hard to see unless you're a full screen here, but the rodecaster duo and rodecaster to have a preset for the SM 7b so I didn't have to worry about dialing in any settings or processing. I just picked that plugged in my sm 7b does not need a boost or a cloud lifter, because the rodecaster has that gain built into it and and that was there for that. It has only four pots, as opposed to the six on the fuller size version. And you can actually program these to whatever you want. So for me, I've got my microphone on the first pot. I've got USB, which is going to be where I'm hearing you guys on the second pot. Bluetooth for the third it would be Bluetooth connectivity is improved over the original road caster, and then my sound effects bar on the last one

Speaker 1  7:51  
nice record, scratch. And does that come in? Does that come with

Jon Gay  7:53  
it occasionally? Yeah. And I have that because I suppose the full road caster too, because most of my clients, or all my clients, are virtual at this point, and so I only really need myself and the client. Then I can have the sound effects and I can have a third Bluetooth if I need to connect. I don't need six across the board. If I had four or five people in a room, I would have got the full rodecaster too, but the rodecaster duo for myself, and I think for most podcasters that only have one or two people in a room should be just fine.

David Yas  8:23  
Are these settings? Settings the same, like the mix minus, all that kind of business that in the original

Jon Gay  8:30  
Yeah, same thing, Dave, as far as you know, is I have the mix minus turned on for my USBs that I'm not feeding the USB and you're not hearing yourselves on an echo coming out of my side. You know, it's got a little bit more fine tuning, as far as processing a couple more bells and whistles, nothing that I think you really need to dial in to too much.

David Yas  8:49  
And also internal Sid card that was called,

Jon Gay  8:53  
yeah, a a SD card. Yes, it's kind of records to a micro SD card in the back. I will say I had an issue where I had a micro SD card that got corrupted and it wasn't getting all my files to transfer, so I had to buy a new micro SD card that said I always have a backup recording. I record on the rodecaster. I'm also recording in squad caster, Riverside or Adobe, or whatever platform I'm using. And then the final item on the rodecaster duo, I forget, but it'll come back to me.

David Yas  9:23  
You don't have, uh, two dozen SD cards at the bottom of a backpack, like I do

Jon Gay  9:29  
those micro ones. They get lost so easily. You got

Johnny Podcasts  9:31  
to get these little plastic cases. Yeah, we got a couple of those for sure.

Matt Cundill  9:35  
Jack, I have a question, yes, ma'am, um, because so often I remember a few years back, you were talking about the road caster being something that you could take in two o'clock into a client's office and start doing some recording, and then people would say, Oh, wow. And isn't this impressive? How does this one do for travel? I

Jon Gay  9:49  
actually, to be honest, Matt, have not traveled with it because in covid, I pivoted to a completely remote business model. But this is going to be a lot smaller. In fact, a visual aid here. I can blow the dust off my original rodecaster, just for an AB comparison, wow. There's Wow. Way that smaller. That is how much smaller the rodecaster is, versus, you know, it's maybe two thirds the size of the original. Is the original God road caster box with everything on it. And then this one here. And another final plan I'll make is road caster now. Road now has its own road caster app to update the firmware on your road casters. So if you are using a rodecaster, a road caster duo, any of these rodecaster products, it's a little bit more user friendly. The road caster standalone app to update firmware and check for firmware updates. Grab that from the road website.

David Yas  10:46  
I'll take that old rodecaster Pro off your hands.

Jon Gay  10:48  
Oh no, it's, it's, it's here. In case the road caster duo messes up. I've actually get caught. The road caster duo connects by USB C, and I have had, once in a while, where it's cut out completely. It's not as bulletproof as the original. It's a little bit nicer and easier to use. But I have had a couple moments where I've had to, you know, restart because something won't walk in the USB C connection in full, in full disclosure, always have a backup,

Catherine O'Brien  11:13  
or the backup of the backup. Yeah, I was, I was thinking David, along those same lines. I was like, by the end of this episode, we might have a full eBay, a storefront of Audio Technica seller Old, old loot that would be, that would be a great thing. Any more equipment that people have to share for their this first part of the the hardware situation

Matt Cundill  11:36  
for Jag, well, please No Matt, this one is about the about road releasing call me, which integrates into, I believe your yes,

Jon Gay  11:46  
I'm glad you brought that up, because I forgot that point. I have not used the feature yet. I just downloaded the latest firmware update, so I do have that capability. But if you and another person on your podcast, your guest, your co host, are both using road casters. There is a feature called Call me where they can and because the new road casters connect to the internet, I recommend wired, not Wi Fi, just for stability, you can call each other and their rodecaster will come up on a slot on your board that you can program. Wow. Rodecaster to rodecaster. I believe they're using VoIP technology for it. I

Matt Cundill  12:23  
think I was given trying to recall it the London podcast show. I had a demo of it in advance, where, with my phone, I could just dial right into the road caster,

Jon Gay  12:35  
yes, you can. You can from a from a phone number. You can get a number to call in, or pull it up on your browser in Chrome, I believe, as well, to call into a road caster.

Matt Cundill  12:45  
Needless to say, I said, Wow.

Johnny Podcasts  12:50  
Other equipment would be if you wanted, you know, from Jack's viewpoint, for those listeners, you know, in what scenario would you want a road caster duo? Why would I need one? Seems like a big box if I'm just recording on my podcast remotely. It's a really good piece of hardware to have if you're going to be doing hybrid recording. So sometimes we're going to do remote recording, sometimes we're going to go on site. And just in that same vein, if you wanted something that's even smaller, it doesn't have all the same bells and whistles that the rodecaster duo has. There's a reason why it's so popular, because it's really powerful. But if you just want something that will literally fit in your pocket and can record remotely into your computer, or, you know, act as a USB audio interface to get your mic into your computer, or if you wanted to take it on the road, this is the pod track p4 this is what I use occasionally if I have to do a travel podcast. I was using it as just testing it out for a few months as a USB audio interface worked great. You can fit four microphones in there. You can plug kind of an AUX cable, a three and a half millimeter in there. You can plug it into your computer. It has a wall charging option four separate headphone outputs. And this is obviously for the people watching on video. Go watch on YouTube, and it is a really, really powerful and probably, like 150 bucks, so, you know, not breaking the bank. If this is something you're going to use for a long

Jon Gay  14:15  
time, overcast or Yeah,

Catherine O'Brien  14:18  
and always reliable that that's always a good one to have,

Jon Gay  14:21  
yes, and it records onto SD or micro SD. John, it records onto

Johnny Podcasts  14:25  
an SD card. So just your standard, normal one, lot, lot less, lot harder to lose than the micro SD cards,

Catherine O'Brien  14:37  
even with a small little case that

Speaker 2  14:38  
you can exactly I

Catherine O'Brien  14:40  
think that concludes our equipment portion of our halfway through the year Show and Tell portion. We're going to go to David next. Because when David came onto this call right here today, we all went, well, well, well, Mr. Yaz, look at what's behind you. I want you to just, first of all, just tell us, what are you doing with. Your plus a chat GPT Plus account and this magnificent background that you've brought up for

David Yas  15:05  
us. Well, that's one thing. The first thing I'll mention that chat GPT can be a boost for your podcast. I'm using it more and more. The robots are here to stay. People, let's make friends with them. Okay, they're going to be in charge before you know it. But so a simple prompt to if, yeah, if you have chat GPT. Plus, I don't know what the fee is, but it's nothing exorbitant. Monthly fee you pay for that, and you get some extra stuff, including the ability to make images. And so the background you see here is just it maybe took two prompts to chat GPT, say, make a background for Hold on, Adrian, can you be quiet please? My son's making some noise. Sorry about that. So just a prompt saying you make a background for the Boston Podcast Network, and then it'll take some liberties. I didn't say put brick behind me, but it looks nice. It'll give you a couple of different options. It'll do it the correct shape. I use chat GPT for images all the time, particularly for episode specific podcast images. I have a podcast I produce which has three women who are all fashion designers, and I always take a photo of them, then I upload the photo to chat GPT, and I say, make a fun cartoon about the fashion choices people made at Wimbledon. And, you know, it'll, it'll make one that is a lot spiffier than anything you could have done by hand or whatever. So use it to you can upload photos of who's ever on the podcast. Sometimes you got to avoid copyright protected stuff, like you can't say, you know, make one where I'm on Bruce Springsteen is Born to Run album instead of Bruce. You know, it might kick that one back to you, because, you know, but so many ways to use that. I have a couple other Catherine you want me to go into the other chat? GBT,

Catherine O'Brien  16:54  
I sure do. But actually, before you do that, you just mentioned Bruce Springsteen. Did he have any number one hits ever?

David Yas  17:00  
He never did. But Dexy runner, at this,

Jon Gay  17:05  
is there a podcast we can learn more about this? Dave,

David Yas  17:08  
there is. I'll get to that in a moment. Jack, actually,

Johnny Podcasts  17:12  
but so

David Yas  17:15  
chat GPT can help your podcast in ways that I won't even be able to list all of them right now, but the first let's start with like the simple and so this is just a real simple prompt. You can play that video. Matt, thanks. It's just a real simple video. Is I typed in the here it is. Create a table for this podcast, provide the RSS feed and just give me a table chat, GPT with the episode, the release date, the episode title. So this is real simple, and you might say, Well, why do I need to do that? Well, cutting and pasting from Apple podcasts isn't exactly easy, and this will do it in a heartbeat. You could also have it put the episode descriptions on names of guests, or you can, you can see at the end chat, GPT always provides a little, oh, what else can I do for you? Durations, descriptions, guest names, etc, etc, one word of warning. When you type in the RSS feed, it doesn't always work, and sometimes it asks for a little extra information. But that's just, that's just one way so and one of the themes you'll see developing here is that chat GPT can give you actual feedback on your on your podcast, which you wouldn't necessarily think was possible. So Matt, if we could go to the second video I took a podcast, and it's called shorts beyond measure for whatever reason. And now, if you play that video from the beginning, Matt Is that is that it seems like we're kind of in the middle of the video there. Now, here it is. Okay. Okay, so I say analyze the transcript of this podcast and give me the feedback on the quality. So, you know, whatever, right? And so the entire episode transcript, just tell me what you think chat. GPT, you'd be amazed at how much detail it'll give you. It'll give you the you know, here are the strengths. The hosts are charming. They have natural chemistry. It's cultural revenant relevance. There's authenticity in what they speak about. Now, what could they do better? They don't really have too much structure in the show, too much banter up front. We're all guilty of that time. It's time to time. I think it the somehow it noticed the energy drop towards the end. I think that was because, because one of the hosts said, let's finish this up. I'm hungry. I mean, that was a joke, some overlapping dialog, it noticed, and some, some other sort of missed opportunities there. So these are, if you're if it for the producers this podcast, Super Friends. This is great feedback to give to the people you're working. With. Now, of course, you want to read it over and make sure chat GBT is on point, or simply tell your your the person you're working with. This is what chat GPT said. Take it with a grain of salt, but it's even got bonus ideas for boosting quality. What can you add to the show? Add a visual companion that says, have a guest expert on this and that it comes with with a final verdict here of 3.5 stars out of five. So which is kind of nice, but really you want, you want to hear the the criticism, right? You mean you want we're not doing our jobs if we're not looking at our podcast critically and deciding how we can improve. So at the very least, it'll get you thinking about a lot of these things. You know, if, if the chat GPT says maybe you should do a segment on, you know, the Book of the Week, or the tip of the week, or something like we do, like that, chat GPT can help you develop that. It can help it can help write a script for the opening of that, you know, all kinds of things. The third way I just wanted to show you with my third little mini video here is how to analyze download numbers. So I took in jag and Catherine. Wait no longer. I'm here. I am taking a screenshot of download numbers for past tense, a top 10 Time Machine. Past tense, a top 10 time machine. You can go to Time Machine, pod.com play the jingle. I don't have the jingle hooked up today, so sorry, sorry to disappoint. But so I take, take a screw, just take a screenshot of, you know, whatever podcast app, pardon me, host, and here I am. I'm just going to attach that screenshot. Don't worry. Chat. GPT, can read your screenshot, and I'm going to say, analyze the download numbers and tell me, see what you can tell me about my audience, the growth of my audience, etc. So you'd think, well, it's only got, you know, a couple dozen episodes there with download numbers, but you'll see it'll it'll tell me what my growth is like, strong overall growth. It'll, of course, tell you what the top performing episodes are, and then it'll look at some of the episode titles and tell you what's which one seems to be doing better. Now, mind you, you can feed chat GPT with as much information as you want. I just did one screenshot of the list of like, the last, you know, maybe 20 episodes and what kind of downloads they got it. You know, here it is. It's telling us which of the episodes are above average and which kind of organizing the information for you and trying to draw some conclusions and some takeaways. You know, it's telling me and what we're on a strong upward trajectory. The content is resonating even the worst average, even the worst episodes, still beats your overall average. Some of those are just intuitive. But if you feed it with even more information, it can keep giving you it can keep giving you updates and analyze things for you. And don't forget that chat. GBT never forgets anything. So if, like, three days from now, I give it another screenshot, I can literally say to it, hey, do you remember when I gave you that screenshot of those download numbers? Well, now I'm going to give you another screenshot, which shows episodes, you know, over the course of an entire year or something. So we all in, and sometimes this helps, because a lot of the podcasts we work on, especially in the early going, don't really have strong download numbers at all. And you're wondering, are there any bright spots? You'd kind of like to at least have a bright spot and chat GPT can break some of that down for you. So super friends, please weigh in.

Johnny Podcasts  23:27  
Can I? Can I make a clarification on something David said at the end? Yes. Chappy, chat GPT will remember what you said, but only within that same chat. So if David said the you know, if David started a chat like he just did in the beginning of the screenshot, and then started a new chat a week later and said, Hey, remember when we talked about this? It will not remember that the AI llms are not allowed to to look at between chats. You would have to open up a project within

Jon Gay  23:55  
I want to push back on that. Johnny, yeah, because I that may be true in the free version, I on the paid $20 a month version, at one point, I asked chat GPT, what do you know about me? And a little scary, but it told me a bunch of stuff based on a couple dozen different chats that I've given it. So, yeah, I would pay version. Will remember stuff in between. I believe, okay,

Johnny Podcasts  24:20  
I think that's probably just on a case by case scenario. So for whoever's watching and ends up trying it, try it and see for yourself, that's just the experience that I ran into where I would take the next step beyond the free version, is you can create projects in chatgpt and then give project instructions that will it will remember across all chat. So I do that for a lot of workflow stuff, but just something to be cautious about, because in case you run into like, I don't know what it says, I don't know what you're talking about, you go, but I told you a week ago, yeah,

David Yas  24:52  
I think jag is right. I think with the paid version, it does have the I know it has the ability to remember some things. Maybe it just requires a certain. Prompted, saying, remember this or whatever we all we've talked about this on the show before. The chat GBT is and descript is as well. With their AI tools, very useful in looking at the transcript of a podcast and writing show notes for you, including those timestamp list of topics if you if you do those. So I've been using descript for that, but something like a fun podcast that's a little bit irreverent. I don't want just the sort of static, antiseptic way it's just described. So what I do is I'll cut and paste the show notes that descript gave me. I'll put it into chat GPT, and I'll say, write this like, like I would write it in my voice. I've written enough, and I've uploaded a couple of things that I've written to chat GBT. And at one point, chat GBT said to me, oh, oh, you mean Dave speak. Yeah, sure, I'll rewrite this on Dave speak your you know, off the cuff, conversational, sometimes sarcastic, always kind of funny tone, and it always it writes it pretty. You know, I might want to make a couple changes to it, but it saves me a lot of time when I don't have the energy to be funny and witty. It'll be funny to witty for me, which sounds insane. Well,

Jon Gay  26:10  
it pumps your tires for you and tells you how funny you are,

David Yas  26:12  
too. Oh yeah, they'll tell you. They'll tell you all that, whatever you want to tell you, it'll be your best friend if you want to,

Johnny Podcasts  26:18  
just to close the door on what I what I brought up a second ago, I asked, I have chat GBT plus, and I asked them, are you able to see things I've sent you within other chats? And they said, No, I can't see messages or files you've sent in other chats. Each conversation is private and separate unless you bring up something again or ask me to remember certain info using the memory feature, which I can see across chats if it's turned on. So go find the memory feature and turn that on. If you

Catherine O'Brien  26:45  
haven't. I know. I know for grok, which I know for Matt's benefit, I'm going to be representing what I've been doing on grok, which is Twitter's AI similar thing that Johnny, I think that if you i If, let's say I'm doing something using descript. I'm using grok to shortcut me to how to do things on grok. Sorry, how to do things on descript. I go back to the same project, and I'm I'm just recycling that, that same project to have it continually help me so I don't have to start from ground zero for whatever we were working on in descript. Speaking of descript, descript has been coming out with all their new their new AI tools that I know Jack and I have a couple of comments to make there. Maybe just to kick it off, I will say that, first of all, we notice that Underlord has been taken off the main the main toolbar there just is now sparkly AI tools, you know, we'll see how that shakes out eventually. But I have been, personally, I've been using their the descripts ai tool of cutting out retakes. And I have been loving it. Now, one technique, I will say is, if you, if you use this, the AI tool is going to come up with hundreds, potentially, of these suggestions of maybe a word that is repeated, or when a speaker has started over. And my suggestion, what I've been doing just in the editing phase of using this AI tool is to accept all the edits that they are suggesting, and then in the actual listening, undoing the edit if it's doesn't fit, because a majority of the edits I will take, they are good. They that has made a good suggestion. And for the ones that's not, I don't have to go through them, one by one, by one, by one by one. I it's just in the listening, if it does, if they've made an edit that I wouldn't have agreed with, it's just a one click to undo it. Jack what are you what are you doing these days?

Jon Gay  28:46  
You had told me that that strategy and a call, our offline call, Catherine, yes, blew my mind, because I'm going to show you the the longer way to do that, which is probably not as efficient, but it's good if you want control. This is also a good feature for novice editors, if you may not have the audio editing chops, so I'm going to share, share,

Speaker 2  29:07  
oops.

Jon Gay  29:10  
Can I share? Sorry, your screen. This

Johnny Podcasts  29:15  
is one of those redos. Descript would just cut out, and, yeah, yes, exactly.

Catherine O'Brien  29:19  
And I'd accept it, and then would just go sailing on. I might just

Matt Cundill  29:23  
do it manually.

Jon Gay  29:25  
I'm gonna open this is a podcast that was just sent to me,

David Yas  29:29  
Johnny. We are picking up some fun infant stuff. I think from your mind, sorry, I'll mute myself. No, that's it's fun. No, no,

Johnny Podcasts  29:37  
I'll be quiet. I'm kidding.

Jon Gay  29:39  
Are y'all able to see my descript screen. Give me a sec here. All right, so this is a 48 minute podcast that was imported directly from a client recording and squad cast. If I open up to Catherine's point, AI tools, the retakes, one is very good. What I will go is edit for CL. Clarity, and I'm going to do low intensity, not medium, and I'm going to hit submit. And while this may take a moment or two, well, that didn't work, let's try it this way.

Jon Gay  30:18  
Here we go in a 39 minute and four and eight. Well, a podcast that was 40 something minutes. It cut it down under 40, as you can see down here, and it gave me 422 possible edits. And you can see a lot of that is repeated words, a lot of that is and if you are not good with the physical piece of audio editing, one thing you can do to Catherine's point, you can accept all of them. You could hit done and accept all of them and then go back and undo ones you don't like. Or you can go through and that one sounded fine. So you can check or act or discard each single one as you go through. It takes a bit of time, but it can be a faster, faster way than hand editing things as you go back in. So I will approve or deny them one by one if I'm using this

Matt Cundill  31:09  
feature.

Johnny Podcasts  31:10  
Jack. Can we take a dive a step deeper into that? So let's say that the word she's is that right there, president of the American Water Works Association. Let's just say you make that edit. How good is descript at actually hiding that edit to where the end of the word Collins is faded out correctly. And then, right before President, are you able to hear my audio? If I hit we can't hear it. But just like, Are you like?

David Yas  31:40  
It's usually pretty good with that stuff. Johnny, when it When? When I take out the ums and us, it's

Johnny Podcasts  31:46  
not choppy, no,

Jon Gay  31:48  
almost. I think it blends the Edit, not anymore. No, yeah,

Catherine O'Brien  31:51  
everyone, Johnny, I remember what you're talking about, Johnny, when, when that firt feature was first out, and it is, it is much better. And I will also say what descript has significantly improved is the regeneration. So that is the AI enhancement for a one word. So like, if there's a glitch or something isn't said correctly, or there's a choppy you can highlight it, regenerate it through AI, and it'll chef's kiss. Usually it makes it perfect for

Jon Gay  32:19  
that. Catherine, do you find that when two people speak over each other? The AI has trouble with that. I've seen

Catherine O'Brien  32:24  
that. Well, yes, yeah, that still remains. Say, yeah, that,

David Yas  32:27  
yeah, that. That's also a thing, right? With the it's also a thing with the studio sound. If you have like a one person talking the other laughing Occasionally, when you turn on that magical studio sound, it'll sometimes come out distorted, but Catherine for the regeneration of the speech. Will it, will it regenerate just from the the podcast, the episode that you've uploaded? Or do you need to up? Okay? Because I swear I tried that, and I thought it said you have to, like, have somebody read a script so it can recreate.

Matt Cundill  33:00  
Permission I was going to ask,

Catherine O'Brien  33:02  
not not one, not one. If it's more, if it's if it's a lengthy then it'll generate the to regenerate this, you need to have this permission and this script. If it's a single word, or, like, maybe two words, it doesn't it'll do it automatically.

Matt Cundill  33:19  
Interesting.

Jon Gay  33:22  
Riverside has a has a similar function to change a word, I think I in Riverside's editor, I had somebody say three instead of four, or vice versa, and I was able to successfully change it without having to get a re record. So

Catherine O'Brien  33:35  
that, I don't think description knew that they would need permission, because I have run into that where the the text of the script was incorrect. So I'm I'm not gonna be able to it was like a homophone where it sounded the same, but it was spelled the different. The word was wrong. I changed the text correct to corrected it, and it would not regenerate it, saying it because that was changing what they actually said. Does that make sense? Yeah.

Jon Gay  34:02  
Oh, English, it's so hard to teach people. Never mind.

Catherine O'Brien  34:04  
So like a three to four, or if, let's say a four to a three, it wouldn't, it wouldn't, let wouldn't let me do something like that. But Riverside, apparently you can, what other AI fun are people having here?

Matt Cundill  34:19  
I have a question, Catherine, just one more time you would go, you would accept everything that jag did and then just undo it if you didn't like it, right,

Catherine O'Brien  34:27  
correct? Yes. Because, well, let me tell you why. Is because I was doing those 400 listen to this one. What are they suggesting here? What did they suggest? And 90% of them I would, I would take so to me, it was a better use of my time to say, Yes, I'll do it. And then if I when I am actually doing the listen through, which is part of my flow, uh, editing, if now I'm discovering, okay, well, whoops, that was, that was not a good edit, or that was something that shouldn't have been taken out. Now it doesn't make any sense. There's a easy hanging I hover over it. So there's a little put that back into place and it in one click, it will put descript, will put it back into place to the original easy peasy. So to me, I would rather do 10 of those rather than literally 400 Yes, I'll take out that double. She, she the that's I'm going to take those

David Yas  35:21  
that's me. You asked about other AI stuff, Catherine,

Catherine O'Brien  35:26  
yes, I sure did David lay it on us? Well, I don't know

David Yas  35:29  
if we've ever mentioned this before, but it's, it's great for our interview prep. If you're interviewing somebody on your podcast and you know, you want to make sure you've got 10 really good questions to hit them with. You know, take the, take the person's bio and upload it into chat, GPT, and say, what would be some interesting questions? And I always kind of over ask. In other words, I'll say, give me 30 questions. And, you know, then, then you go through and maybe cherry pick 10 of them, or whatever your, you know, whatever your needs are, you know it's, it's always, it's a time saver. Is really what it is. If you're talking to some guest who's an expert on, you know, politics and in turmoil in the Middle East, and you want to know what's happened in the last week, so you're up to date on it. Chat. GPT, it's a great just ask. Just give me 10 bullet points about what's been going on in the Middle East. And that way you at least kind of you know what you're talking about to some degree. And of course, you can apply that to any topic.

Matt Cundill  36:34  
This is rather generic and boring. It's not nearly as exciting as what you're all talking about, but I'm just using it for 32nd scripts. Just, you know, there are, there are so many podcasters who, for whatever reason, do not, you know, have a a show promo, and one of the hardest things they have to do is to, is to write about themselves. And, you know, there's, there's already, they've already got a podcast. So there's enough documented stuff out there about the show already to do it, and then you've got, you know, the call to action, which is, you know, listed on Apple Spotify. In fact, chatgpt already knows to put apple and Spotify in there. And they say, is there anything else you'd like me to include, like a website? If you don't put in a website, it will just do what iHeart does and wherever you get your podcasts. But you shouldn't do that. You should put your website in there, but often it's it does promos really, really well, because a lot of people have already described and there's already podcast descriptions, but for whatever reason, no, I would probably want to take it a step further, and I'll do what David did earlier, and get the show description. I'll give it the show description. Now write me a one minute or a 92nd trailer about this. And Steve Goldstein said this was really the best way to promote your podcast is to really hype people up for one big episode. So if you're looking for a starter point to write your promo, this is always a very good one. Chat. Gbts does a very good job of just getting you started down the writing path of you know, what could this sound like? I find that it saves me at least the first one hour, and gets me to hour number two of writing this promo,

Catherine O'Brien  38:11  
and it combats the blank page syndrome. At the very least, you're not just sitting there staring at a blank page going, what am I going to do here?

Johnny Podcasts  38:19  
I love Jags term. He calls it the gives you the scaffolding.

Jon Gay  38:24  
Yeah, I came up with that. Sure,

Johnny Podcasts  38:27  
I'm officially making you the one who said that.

Catherine O'Brien  38:29  
Ask quick. Let's ask chat GPT, who came up with that.

David Yas  38:35  
Just tell them. Just tell them. Jag didn't tell them that. Jack, remember it'll remember that. But, I mean, it's to, you know, the creative types worry that it's out to replace creativity. To me, it enhances creativity. You know, if you've got there are certain shows that will lend itself to this, but I produce a couple of shows where there's a light hearted segment at the end where the guest has to answer 10 questions, rapid fire, and then they're congratulated on doing this by some sort of salute that I have to come up with as the producer. So sometimes I'll ask chatgpt to write a poem about this guy. Make it funny, you know. And then, you know, I won't use the exact thing chatgpt did, but it'll get me halfway there. So, you know, or, you know, if I'm trying to write a fun poem for this purpose, I'll, I'll say chat to be, you know, give me, you know, 10 words that rhyme with sliver, whatever, you know, just, oh, liver, yes, you know, quiver, yeah. I mean, whatever. But so, so I like to think it can, it can get you there. And just incredible time savers. I mean, a lot of times the guest will say, How did you come up with that? Like on the spot? And, you know, magician, magician never reveals this trick. So,

Catherine O'Brien  39:50  
and I think we've already established, the official stance of the podcast Super Friends is, yes, AI with human finishing. With a human review. That is, that is the official standpoint of the podcast. Super Friends.

Johnny Podcasts  40:04  
One more thing on the descript jag and Catherine, are we still? Is the recommendation still to use the web version of

Jon Gay  40:10  
descript and not that no longer supporting the standalone app? Yeah, okay, use the website listeners, although we should get some clarification from them, as opposed to whether you should record in squad cast or descript rooms. We've gotten conflicting information on

Johnny Podcasts  40:23  
that. Well, once we ink that sponsorship deal, we can get see if I can

Jon Gay  40:27  
track them down a Podcast Movement in a couple of weeks and report back to the group

Catherine O'Brien  40:31  
and I still record in Riverside. So we'll just, you know, we'll just keep that going. I have

Jon Gay  40:35  
found Riverside better for recording and descript better for editing. Would you agree with that?

Catherine O'Brien  40:39  
Catherine, that is my, also my, my feet. That is, that is my official stance as well.

Matt Cundill  40:45  
I can't even remember, like, who pushed me to get the the app version of descript from for my Mac. So somebody in the last few weeks just had me download it to solve a problem of some sort. So at one point

David Yas  40:57  
it looked like they were going that way, but then they reverse course, and so now I never

Matt Cundill  41:03  
I can't remember what I'm supposed to do this week.

Johnny Podcasts  41:08  
That's why you have to grok to remind you

Matt Cundill  41:12  
online. It's funny. We're talking about AI, and we talk a little bit about studio sound. We talked about the stuff in descript, but Johnny put out his newsletter. Again, you can connect with Johnny's newsletter in the show notes of this episode, along with my newsletter and any other newsletters that we have put a hyperlink in the show notes. But Johnny, can you talk a little bit about the ease of Adobe? Yeah, so it's made

Johnny Podcasts  41:35  
Adobe Voice or Adobe enhance is a really, really wonderful tool. And if you want to read more about it and find the link to it, you can find my sub stack. It's just called Johnny podcast on sub stack, and like Matt said, it'll be in the link or in the show notes. But it's a really, really awesome tool, because one of the major problems for remote podcasters, and we've talked about this endlessly, is that, you know, you can have the perfect setup. You can have the rodecaster duo, you can have the pod track, you can have the scarlet you can have the cloud lifter. You can have the SMC seven, DB, e, f and g. But your guest jumps on, and they're sitting at their laptop at a loud coffee shop under the L train in Chicago, and they're going, Hey, I'm here to do the podcast. And you go, Well, this episode is toast. We're never gonna be able to fix this. Similar to the studio sound tool in descript Adobe, enhances a standalone Adobe product that you just drop your audio right in there, and it just does an incredible job of cleaning it up. And there's more info in the sub stack about it, but I just I highly recommend it, and I believe I have access to the premium version of it, and it's because I subscribe to some Adobe products. So I believe you have to have some sort of Adobe subscription to have access to that, which can get expensive if you if you're not using any of those tools. On the flip side of it, there's a plugin, a third party plugin, that I've been using for the past six months that is just an amazing tool. It's actually the winner of a technical Emmy. So this is an Emmy Award winning plugin. It is called, is by a company called ascent. Ascent eyes, A, C, C, E, N, T, I, z, E. They are an intelligent audio tools platform. And it is called DX revive. And I think Jag, you might be using this

Jon Gay  43:19  
one. I don't know. I played with it, but not extensively. So it is,

Johnny Podcasts  43:22  
it is a sort of, I use it as sort of a base layer, if I don't want to use Adobe enhance. So it is just a simple dial plugin. You drop it right into your DAW onto your audio, and then you can play with the zero to 100% strength. And it does a very similar process as the Adobe podcast enhanced, but it's instantaneous. The Adobe podcast enhance takes a little bit of time to process all of your audio, but this is a really great tool as well, and since it's an offline tool, you don't run into what are called AI hallucinations, which is a big problem that you see. I'm sure that you guys run into it with the studio sound tool, but you also run into it with the Adobe tool. I don't I feel like this part of my spiel is going to become obsolete in the next six months, just because it's getting so good, I'm seeing them less and less. But essentially what AI hallucinations are are it's working so hard to clean up the audio that sometimes it forgets that sometimes the person isn't talking. So when there's silence, they go, where's the audio to fix? And it will create a hallucination, where it just creates this kind of glitch in the audio, where it sounds like that. Yeah, so if you're using that tool, just be wary that that can happen. And I've listened to podcasts that I've been, you know, brought in to consult on where they're like, Yeah, we're using this tool. It's great. It really helps clean up the audio, but they forget about those ai ai hallucinations, and you'll hear one person talking the other, the other person's audio that has the Adobe enhance added on to it will just have that hallucination in the background. So. I'll be talking in the background, you'll just hear that, and it's really distracting, so just be wary of that. And then Matt's pulled onto the screen the DX revive Pro, which is, good God, 486 Canadian is insane. US dollars. It is 299 for D revive Pro, I would highly recommend the Pro version over the original version. The original is only $99 D revive Pro is 299 you pay for it once you're good, versus an Adobe subscription, and you're paying months and months and months, and you're probably going to double or triple that output if you're using

Catherine O'Brien  45:34  
it for years. Johnny the AI hallucination, that is the AI version of what we used to go with the the Zoom warp, that is the modern version of that warping sound, the Zoom warp.

Johnny Podcasts  45:50  
But those are two really wonderful tools. They're just excellent for cleaning up audio, so you can rest on your laurels not having to worry that your guest has just horrific audio. There are ways that it can be

Catherine O'Brien  46:01  
fixed and quickly. Jag, you have an a plug in that you were also touting.

Jon Gay  46:06  
Yeah, Johnny, I mentioned this. You offline. Much Have you tried it yet? It's waves, AQ. It's an automated EQ. And I'm not real. EQ is not my strong suit. So this is if you've got somebody sometimes descript or or, or, or Adobe will give somebody a little bit of a boxy sound that a little bit too much of a low end. You can run it through waves AQ, it's an automated EQ filter. It'll give you a starting point. You can make a few tweaks throughout. So that's another one. You can also use waves AQ, I think it was like 50 bucks.

Johnny Podcasts  46:39  
It's waves, yeah, it's waves AQ, waves offers a subscription service to where you can pay for access to like, hundreds of plugins. So I went to go buy it, jag, and I put in the checkout, and it was like, you already have this, so I had to update everything on waves, and it. Put it in there. I haven't played with it extensively, so I'm not I'm not competent with it yet, but I'm gonna keep stabbing at it.

Jon Gay  47:01  
Then another one is isotope. On the higher end of software has a dialog isolate feature. If you get isotope, RX 11 is what they're up to. Now that's really good for somebody if they're if they're on an okay mic, but in a really echoey room, the dialog isolate will pull that background noise, and dialog D reverb will un echo the voice. So that's another good one, too, on the higher end of the spectrum.

Matt Cundill  47:26  
And we should put a disclaimer out that, just because all this stuff exists, and we might work with you and like you, please use a microphone. Yes,

Johnny Podcasts  47:34  
yes, yes. This is not, this is not the hall pass to just ditch your mic or not buy a microphone. This is exclusively for your guests who come on, and we need to make them sound passable.

Catherine O'Brien  47:46  
And guess, if you're going to be on a podcast, and I'm going to say three podcasts this year, you have to buy a mic too. Sorry. Those are just the

Johnny Podcasts  47:55  
rules. If you listen to this podcast and you are just a guest on other podcasts and you still haven't bought a microphone, yet you need to be institutionalized immediately, because there's no way you've consumed this much content and not at least bought a microphone.

Catherine O'Brien  48:08  
Even I wasn't going to go that far, Johnny, but I will good advice you will. He Johnny's going to go where no one else will dare speaking of which Johnny has his his newsletter running back up, Matt, you are also doing a a newsletter, and I want to hear a little update from you on beehive. We got to talk when we were talking last time with area. How are you finding this service? Tell us your full report.

Matt Cundill  48:37  
So yeah, Ariel's sort of given me the push to to make this happen here. But so first thing, I've got moved into the paid area, in the paid territory yet, but I will. I'm going to be forced to and say, hit 2500 subscribers. I'm nowhere near there. I'm only at 700 but it's very organized. It feels a lot like sub stack, and it's neat and tidy. It shows really nicely. I can only show you on my phone here. Unfortunately, I went and attached a domain to this, and it's a sound off.it sounding off dot news. And I just attached the domain like a day or two ago, and it hasn't quite caught up yet. So on the web browser where I could show it to you, but it rolls out at a nice newsletter newspaper format. So it's kind of like my newsletter has a home on the internet. I've got it branded as, you know, sounding off. So this the newsletter is me sounding off could be about anything. I'm going to try to stay consistent with it and put it out once a week, but I'm really beginning to see the value. And I think we've had this conversation many times about, oh, you know, you're suppressed by an algorithm, whether it's on Facebook or on YouTube or, or, you know, even X, to a certain extent, and a bunch of other ones. You're just not gonna be able to get your message out all the time, but at least you're, I'm gonna be marketing now to, you know, 700 people who are gonna get my newsletter. You know, every week I'll be consistent with it, and we can connect with them. Downloads, they're largely going down. If you're flat. That's kind of like the new op. The reason why downloads are going down is because people are sort of maybe picking up stuff on YouTube and spending a little bit of time with video. I don't think that's that's indisputable, because that that is happening, but sure, when you know this is where I sort of get the you know, we're going to replace the numbers in the aggregate. So we're going to at least build out a little bit on the on the newsletter side, in order to replace any, you know, thoughts or ideas that we might be losing.

Johnny Podcasts  50:28  
Take the Moneyball approach. We're building it out in the aggregate, in the aggregate

Matt Cundill  50:33  
with that said, you know, I'm seeing, I'm seeing some YouTube traction. So people saying, Oh, I see the videos. I see the videos. And I think that's one of the one of the things that's really good about YouTube is like people will run into it and see it. So, you know, it used to be there was really just one or two ways to count. Now there's like, five or six different ways to sort of get all your numbers together and count to really see the progress of how you're doing. Hopefully, by the time we get get the robots up to snuff, they'll be able to tell us a little bit more about putting all these numbers together into something. So that's beehive by the way, B, E, h, i, i v.com, enjoying it.

Catherine O'Brien  51:12  
And Matt, I'm I'm seeing on Twitter a lot of people who are in the beehive universe, the extended beehive universe. And one of the features that they talk about that, I'm hoping maybe we can track, let's say, as the podcast Super Friends, is actually gaining subscribers to your newsletter through be you know, like that, beehive is good to connect you with new people, so you're not out there having to pound the pavement to get every new subscribers that there are functions that beehive has to bring in the people Who are going to be interested in what you're you're talking about.

Matt Cundill  51:44  
Yeah. And sub stack does a really good job of that as well. I know I get a sub stack email once or twice a week that that tries to connect me with some with other writers

Catherine O'Brien  51:54  
speaking of sub stack. Johnny, launching, relaunching this week.

Johnny Podcasts  51:59  
Yeah. I just thank you, Russell. We are Mike snobs true. Russell is a microphone loyalist, so it's wonderful, correct?

Matt Cundill  52:09  
Oh, we are huge. Yeah,

Johnny Podcasts  52:11  
no, the sub stack thing was something I was doing pretty consistently for a couple years. And then, you know, work picks up and you get busy, and it's a lot like, you know, similar to all of us have like, I think Matt and David and Jag, uh, Catherine, I don't have our own podcast, but you guys know, it's a ton of work to do all of this podcast production work for other people and then carry on with your own content creation. It's a lot, a lot of work. So I'm really just dipping my toe back into it's going to be very I don't want to commit to being like. It's going to come out every single week, because then because then that puts a lot of unnecessary pressure on yourself. What I'm going for is more value over, you know, quantity over quality, which is, you know, advice that we give all of our podcaster clients. You want to have triple A content coming out when it comes out, rather than b plus c minus content coming out at a specific time every single week, and there's disputes around that methodology as well. But the goal, at least for the sub stack, for me, going forward, is whether it's text or video, it's going to be sharing what I do and how to make your podcast be better, sound better, look better.

Catherine O'Brien  53:17  
And you had a you had a snazzy offer for the people who received your sub stack this week, and you shared that with us on the private call with your layouts. So I won't, I'll just use that as a teaser if you want to, if you want your videos to start looking amazing, go check out Johnny's.

Johnny Podcasts  53:31  
I will do something for you for free. All you have to do is go look at the sub stack and read it.

Catherine O'Brien  53:37  
Wow. Who doesn't like free, what a price you can't complain about. Amazing. Matt, you have been doing a little red circling. Tell us

Matt Cundill  53:46  
about that. Yeah. So this is, this has worked out really, really well, because it's, you know, we always talk about, how can we monetize without really trying too hard? And so I've always thought programmatic is a great way to do it. And so yes, there's programmatic, whether you're with Spotify and you're on megaphone, there's ways to do that. If you're with Triton and I heart they've got Spreaker and they've got Omni studio, lots of different ways to get your programmatic going. Red Circle came out with something very interesting about a year ago, and they actually was only about eight months ago that they didn't. They said we can sit we would like to use some of your leftover inventory. And I'm like, Oh, that's interesting. Tell me how. And it's done through vast tags. So you'll just put it into the back end of your megaphone, or, you know, your on your Omni, or your art 19, whatever.

Jon Gay  54:36  
It's a VAST tag for those not familiar, Matt, I'm sorry, a VAST tag. What's that?

Matt Cundill  54:40  
Yeah, that's tag is just a code that's just going to connect you to their system that's going to allow them to drop ads into your your existing inventory. So if you put your ad markers in, if the ad marker goes unused by Amazon, if you're on art 19, if it goes unused by Spotify in megaphone, then red circle will drop their ad in a. Well. And it was nice to wake up the other day to have four or five podcasts, you know, get a check. And because there's a few podcasts that we have that have, like, just a lot of inventory, and, you know, Spotify, I think this is one of the things that people have found out, is that Spotify can't fill everything. They just nobody has enough of everything to do it. So I know that there's been talk about trying to get people, let's find a way to fill all this extra inventory to get the ads into the podcast. And red circles done a great job. So for those who are going to Podcast Movement, go talk to Paige at red circle, or any of the people there. And you don't have to be hosted on red circle to do this. Oh yeah, that's right, that's the thing people say, Oh, I gotta move my podcast to Resco. No, you don't. In fact, they will also connect you with host read ads as well. So if you have like, over 5000 downloads, you will qualify, I think, for some of their host red stuff. But even if you don't, they've got, they've got stuff for you.

Catherine O'Brien  55:57  
I think I misunderstood because I heard, I heard a host red ad for red circle. And I was like, Oh, this is intriguing. And when I knew that you wanted to talk about it here with the podcast Super Friends, I was looking forward to this. I think I misunderstood, and thought you had to host with them to be a part of it.

Matt Cundill  56:14  
Not at all. It's, I think, I think it's great they've done, they've actually done one of the better jobs in this. And there's, you know, I think, I think a lot of the podcasting hosting companies have sort of fiddled with this and figure out, how do we do it, how do we do it? And they've come up with a way to do it. I've got four podcasts that are that are just getting regular ads, and they're not, they're not being put in first, but they're being put in when, when available. And I think that sort of alleviates a lot of the frustration. So, small pots of money, everyone, small pots of money,

Catherine O'Brien  56:42  
little, multiple streams of income. Kind of thinking we're doing here, that's great. Smart, good job for getting that go, yeah? Smart, passive income, right? Well, great. And we have that is a really good list of things that we've been enjoying for this first part of the year, before we close out. Why don't we all in our closing out, why don't we go around and say one thing that we're looking forward to for the rest of the year podcasting wise, and then we'll give our final sign off. So Johnny one, what's one thing that you're looking forward to for the rest of this this podcasting year?

Johnny Podcasts  57:16  
I'm just looking forward to AI getting better and faster, just so that we can make podcasts better. Matt,

Matt Cundill  57:25  
I'm looking forward. I'm thinking about Christmas already and all the excellent microphones and camera equipment that's going to be for sale secondhand when enough people have given this up and dropped out of doing podcasting, realizing how difficult it really is.

David Yas  57:42  
David, yeah, yes, well, coming up on my music podcast Time Machine, as for you, Johnny, yes for the jingle, we will be interviewing Alan Siegel, who is author of stupid TV. Stupid TV be more funny, a comprehensive history of the TV show The Simpsons. Very

Speaker 2  58:07  
nice, interesting. Wow.

Catherine O'Brien  58:11  
See, I feel I'm glad for the jingle, because I know that the people who the devotees or the podcast super friends who are playing the podcast super friends drinking game and already took their shot because of the mention of the show. They felt a little bad because they took the shot even without hearing the jingle. So now, oh, there you go. It was, it is all we have all come full circle. Jag, what are you looking forward to?

Jon Gay  58:35  
I'm a little, I hate to say it, because I'm a little disappointed because the five of us met at the Podcast Movement convention, but I am the only one of the five of us going this year. It is in two weeks. It week of August 18 in Dallas, Texas, Fort Worth, technically. And I'm looking forward just to, kind of getting a lay of the land as far as numbers and where the industry is going. The keynoters are, should be very good, including Jay necklace, former guests with the podcast, super friends so and Hal rude, I'll give them both shout outs. I'm looking forward just getting kind of a 30,000 foot view of where the industry is and connecting with some folks as well. So I'm curious to see what I'm going to learn there, and I'm looking forward to reporting back to the group,

Catherine O'Brien  59:14  
yeah, and I know that we're all going to be on the edge of our seat hearing all the report that you have. And one of the things I'm looking forward to, I don't want to sound negative this. I mean this in a positive I am looking forward to the rest of the year, the opportunities for independent podcasters. I think we're going through yet another wave where some things that we're trying to go big with podcasting are maybe shutting down. So that's just going to create opportunity. We have to look at it as an opportunity for the independent podcasters, and I want us to really help people take grab that opportunity as it presents itself from here on through the rest of the year. So that's the positive version of what I'm looking forward to. Well, this has been another great addition of the podcast Super Friends. Signing off, jag, why don't we go back to you? We'll go counterclock. Clockwise.

Jon Gay  1:00:00  
John yeh, jag in Detroit, podcast handling, co hosting and all kinds of production. You can find me at jag in detroit.com, for now and social media. Jag in Detroit.

David Yas  1:00:09  
David, David Yaz, Boston Podcast Network, pod, 617, dot com in pod, we trust Mr. Matt

Matt Cundill  1:00:16  
cundall. Matt Cundill, sound off media company Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. At Matt Cundill, just about everywhere there's social media.

Catherine O'Brien  1:00:23  
Oh, Johnny podcast,

Johnny Podcasts  1:00:25  
go read my sub stack.

Catherine O'Brien  1:00:29  
Done, done and done. And I'm Catherine O'Brien from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Hello, Catherine. Oh, and thank you so much for being with us this time on the podcast. Super Friends.

Sarah Burke (Voiceover)  1:00:41  
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